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- [[./ultimate-openers/toc.org][Ultimate Openers Course]]

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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
We all see beautiful girls every week. It is important to understand that you must Approach or Open these girls to have any shot at having them in your life. Realize right now that your odds with a girl are 0% if you do not talk to her! So chickening out on approaching, hesitating, or coming up with negative beliefs are all going to contribute to making your chances with that girl 0%.
So instead, go up to her right away and say your OPENER! The “opener” is a line that is used to initiate the conversation. It is the first sentence exchanged between a man and the woman he desires. Remember, if you dont open a woman, your chance of having sex or a relationship with her is going to be 0%, and you probably wont ever see her again either. I have had tons of amazing and beautiful girls in my life and guess what? Each of those interactions started with the OPENER! If I had chickened out before any of those interactions, I would NEVER have had those girls in my life! I would have missed out on so many amazing experiences.
So, now that you realize that you cant further an interaction thats never been initiated, it should also be apparent that when you open, your odds of it turning into some type of relationship with the woman increase dramatically.

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- [[https://courses.johnanthonylifestyle.com/courses/products/26cd7c10-0e48-4430-920a-35d33a5d2fec/categories/e9818876-dc27-43b9-b48d-98e2faf3241f/posts/fcc3da20-3e7d-489e-805a-c99ff1b7c6d2][in person openers - approach anxiety]]
* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
You might be thinking at this point, “OK I understand the importance of approaching girls I see in order to have any chance of having them come into my life. But I feel anxiety or fear when I consider approaching a female stranger in public.” Maybe you worry she might reject you, or that youll look stupid, or that other people will notice, or that she has a boyfriend, and on and on. Or there may not even be a good reason and you may just feel this fear of opening. This is what is referred to as “Approach Anxiety”.
It is important to understand where Approach Anxiety comes from. Think back in our evolutionary history to the time that we were living in tribes. Lets say that your tribe had 20 people in it. Out of those 20 people, 10 were male and 10 were female. Out of those 10 females, your potential mates were cut down even further by the fact that some of them were too young, some were too old, and some were simply not attractive. Now, maybe you are left with 2 or 3 options. If you were to hit on a girl and she happened to be taken, the guy she is with could kill you. Also, if the girl was available but rejected you, the other girls in the tribe would find out and you may never reproduce. Evolution crafted our primary purpose as reproduction and passing on our genes. So, this fear of approaching women is built into our genetic programming. Now fast forward to our modern time. There are literally BILLIONS of women in the world. We are no longer in tribes of 20 people. Even our towns and cities have TONS of women in them. However, our genetic programming unfortunately still contains this element of fear of approach which was created for when we lived in tribal times to help us survive and replicate.
So what exactly are we to do? We have this old circuitry that no longer applies but we still feel the approach anxiety! What a frustrating situation indeed. The good news is that I have a solution for you. You need to treat the approach anxiety like you would treat a pebble in your shoe. Its there, but you ignore it. Even the best guys in seduction still feel it. I have slept with hundreds and hundreds of women and even I still feel it! So dont let it stop you. Dont let it immobilize you and prevent you from taking action. You usually arent going to make it go away so you have to train yourself to ignore it and follow my method and advice. Trust me that life will still go on after you open and you will have given yourself an amazing opportunity to bring a new girl into your life.
Imagine if I hadnt told you about this. You may have gone through the rest of your life preventing yourself from opening due to outdated genetic circuitry! Its terrific that you now understand and have joined the elite group of seduction experts that know this fact as well. So next time you feel the approach anxiety, ignore it and approach immediately. Which brings us to the 3 second rule...

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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
When you see a girl you want to approach, how quickly should you go in? Preferably you should go in IMMEDIATELY, but you should wait no longer than 3 seconds. This is referred to as the “3 second rule”. You have a maximum of 3 seconds from the time you see a girl you want to talk to until the time that you open her. Of course, if she is across the room, you only need to start moving towards her within those 3 seconds since it may be impossible to start talking to her until you walk over to her! I want you to promise yourself, that from now on, you will approach girls you want to talk to within 3 seconds of seeing them. Say out loud, “Starting today, I will always approach a girl I want to talk to within 3 seconds of seeing her.” Trust me, this will change your life forever in a terrific way. And keep in mind that youre going to feel that approach anxiety a lot of the time but remember to treat it like a pebble in your shoe. So you see the girl, you feel the anxiety, you ignore it, and you approach within those 3 seconds.
** What Happens if You Dont Approach Within 3 Seconds?
So why is it important to approach within 3 seconds? Well, many negative things can happen if you do not. First off, you might start coming up with a list of excuses why you shouldnt approach. These can include worrying about rejection, worrying about looking stupid, worrying about the girl possibly having a boyfriend, worrying about her reacting negatively in some way, and any number of other negative thoughts. These are invalid thoughts and are examples of trying to calibrate before the fact instead of after the fact. I will discuss this more in a different section.
Other things that can happen by not going in within 3 seconds include another guy coming to talk to her, her getting interrupted by something, her seeing you building up courage to talk to her (which is low value), or she could leave. So by waiting, you could easily miss your chance completely, lose her to another guy, lower your value, or end up with a bunch of negative thoughts that will mess you up. One last thing to mention during that time of hesitation (if you take longer than 3 seconds to open), your brain is contemplating every single possible thing that could go wrong. For instance:
1. You are focusing on a negative outcome
2. You are rehearsing failure
3. You are allowing fear, doubt, and uncertainty to take control
4. You are giving outside factors time to distract or take your target away from you
So make sure you are following the 3 second rule! However, if you happen to miss the 3 second window, dont let that stop you from still going in. Get yourself into the habit of approaching immediately or within 3 seconds maximum whenever possible.

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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
So now that you know how important it is to approach and why you shouldnt wait more than 3 seconds, you might be wondering which girls you should approach.
You are going to have to rely on her physical appearance almost entirely for knowing if you should approach her or not. The reason for this is that you wont find out her personality until you start talking to her. Therefore, you should set a threshold of physical attractiveness that is acceptable to you. If the girl is above that line you set (that is, you would sleep with her), then you approach her. If a particular girl is below this line then you do not approach her. Its that simple! One other important thing to note is that you shouldnt be setting your standards super high if you are newer to all of this. Obviously we all would only prefer to bang 9s and 10s all the time. However, this is really going to limit your options if you set your threshold at a 9. The hottest girls require more skill and you simply wont be ready for that type of girl right away. So be a little more reasonable when setting your threshold line so that you still have a lot of options for approaching and so that you will have a good shot with a variety of girls. I recommend newer guys master approaching girls above a 6 out of 10 before moving their threshold up to a 6.5 or 7.
** Calibrating to How She Reacts to Your Approach
We talked earlier about why it is bad to calibrate before you approach. This includes imagining a bunch of negative scenarios or coming up with a list of excuses of why you shouldnt approach. Instead, assume that everything will go terrific.
-Realize and think that you are awesome
-Realize and think that you are high value
-Assume the girl will like you
-Assume that everything you will say in the interaction is awesome and cool
-Assume that you can get any girl you talk to
-Dont pay attention to any negative thoughts
When you are out at a bar or club, when you see a girl that is above your threshold of physical attractiveness, approach her within 3 seconds, assume everything will go well and then calibrate after the fact. This means that if she reacts negatively or happens to have a boyfriend then you will deal with it after the opener rather than assuming negative things before. For instance, if you open physically (as I will discuss in a different section), and she says “whoa there not so fast” then you can take a step back, smile, hold out your hand, and say “oh sorry I just wanted to meet you, Im [name].” This is an example of calibrating after the fact based on how she reacted. See the “What to Say” section later in this guide for more details. The key point to understand is that rather than assuming negative things before you approach, assume only positive things and then deal with whatever happens from opening after you have opened.

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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
Now I would like to discuss the various pillars of opening. These are core essential elements that you should make sure you are doing when you approach. Here is the list of them below and then we will go through each One.
-Be physical
-Strong eye contact
-Square up in front of her
-Commanding vocal tonality
-Make sure you are loud enough
-Dominant body language
-What you say does not matter
-Dealing with friends in the group
It should also be noted that communication is broken down like this:
- *7%* of what we communicate is through words
- *23%* of what we communicate is through tone of voice
- *70%* of what we communicate is through body language So what you are actually saying is not nearly as important as how you are saying it. This also demonstrates the importance of watching my hidden camera footage that is released each week with the program. 93% of communication is happening non-verbally which you can only see from my hidden camera footage. However, I will do my best to describe the guidelines below as well. But for real life examples you should consult the hidden camera footage which shows different types of situations each month. Each week will cover new interactions that will be crucial for you to see and understand. This will be critical to your learning.
** Be Physical
When you open, you want to make sure you are being physical in some way. The reason for this is because there are two types of interactions. First, there are platonic friendly interactions where the two of you are just exchanging conversational information and there is no frame of it being a potentially romantic or sexual interaction. This is how you get friendzoned. Second, there are “man to woman” interactions where you are communicating that you are interested in her as more than friends -- namely, in a romantic or sexual way. Physicality during your opener is a great way to set the man to woman frame. Being physical is also a good way to “cut the space” between the two of you as you interact so that you guys are closer which further cements the man to woman frame.
If you leave out physicality then you are going to have a lot of friendly and platonic interactions with women that are going to end with “well have a good night” or “well it was nice meeting you.” This is because you arent in the man to woman frame.
Some examples of opening physically are to have an arm around the girls back, to engage in sustained handholding, and to have hands on the girls waist.
So make sure to be physical on the open! You can see examples of this in the hidden camera footage that is included with this program.
** Strong Eye Contact
Strong eye contact also is important becomes it displays confidence and dominance. It also further cements the man to woman frame. Looking away a lot can make you look like you are unconfident and unsure of yourself, or that you have a hidden agenda, which can lower your value.
Dont be afraid to maintain eye contact and to lock your eyes onto hers. This doesnt mean that you have to always look at her eyes or that you have to stare her down. It is just important to show your confidence and that you have a man to woman frame by incorporating strong eye contact.
** Square up in Front of Her
When you approach a girl, you are going to want to square up in front of her. This means that your feet should be pointing towards her, your shoulders should be squared up, and your body should be facing her. You should also be standing up straight. All of these things convey confidence and dominance and further reinforce the man to woman frame.
Imagine for a moment if you were behind a girl or to her side and you did a weak tap on her shoulder in order to talk to her. Your body language is going to look very timid since you are not dominantly squared up. An exception to this principle is if the girl is next to you at the bar because the two of you are both facing the bartender trying to order a drink. It is OK to open over your shoulder in this case.
** Commanding Vocal Tonality
Remember, 23% of what we communicate is through vocal tonality. When you say your opener (and also when you are interacting with her), there are 3 different types of tonality you can use.
1. Rising intonation: This type of intonation sounds like you are asking a question and it is low value. There is a rising inflection at the end of your sentences. Dont do this.
2. Flat intonation: This type of intonation sounds robotic and conveys no emotion. Imagine how a robot would talk. Talking this way is going to add nothing to the interaction emotionally and the girl will see you as low value and lose interest.
3. Commanding tonality: This is the way you want to speak. It is commanding and dominant. It has a downward inflection at the end of each sentence. To hear what I mean by this you can watch the training module for opening where I demonstrate this type of tonality verbally (as well as the incorrect other two).
** Make Sure You Are Loud Enough
When you speak to the girl, youre going to want to make sure that you are being loud enough. Clubs and bars can be very loud and if she cant hear your opener, then you arent going to be able to move the interaction forward. Additionally, it is going to look low value that you are speaking quietly because it looks like you are meek or unsure of yourself. You are going to have to compete with the noise in the bar including the DJ music and other people talking. If the girl cant hear you then you arent going to be able to seduce her or form a connection with her in any way.
** Dominant Body Language
Remember, 70% of what we communicate is through body language. So make sure that you are not standing still, stiff as a board. This can appear robotic and unnatural. Feel free to express your personality with your facial expressions and arms/hands. However, you dont need to go over the top and use lots of body language that is exaggerated or unnatural. Also, smiling is the single most important piece of body language there is to convey an engaging, friendly attitude. Just be yourself and allow your facial expressions and body language to express your personality. You can see lots of good examples in the hidden camera footage included with this program.
** What You Say Does Not Matter
Remember, 7% of what we communicate is through what we actually say. Therefore, what you say does not matter very much. Words are simply a tool for expressing your personality through your tonality, facial expressions, and body language. Words can also be used to do things such as set sexual frames, to seed the pull (plant the idea that the girl will be coming home with you later), and determine her logistical situation. Watch the training modules that are included with this program to better understand those different concepts. Since what you say does not matter, you should say whatever comes to mind when you open. What you say can be as simple as “Hi, Im [name].” It is also OK to have a “go to” opener that you use every time as long as it is not flashy or weird. I typically use, “Hi, can I meet you real quick?” I even have a hidden camera footage clip where I open with “Hey jerk” to demonstrate that you can say whatever you want when you open. That being said, you dont need to say over the top things like this when you open because some girls will be offended! In that particular example though, I ended up taking the girl home within 5 minutes! We will go over all the different types of openers you can use shortly. However, lets first cover how to deal with friends in the group when you Open.
** Dealing With Friends in the Group
Hot girls or girls in general for that matter rarely travel alone. So, how should you deal with her friends?
First off, you are going to want to talk directly to the girl you want to in the group. Then, if any friend(s) try and stop you from meeting the girl or have an issue with you opening the target (girl you want to talk to), address the friend(s) and introduce yourself, telling them that you just want to meet their friend (the target).
The friend(s) usually just wants to make sure you are cool and high enough value to be talking to her friend (the target) so you can demonstrate this by showing you are socially aware and cool by smiling and introducing yourself to the friend(s).
Examples of a girls friend(s) trying to interfere would be if the friend said:
/“Sorry, were lesbians, she cant talk to you”/ or /“We made a rule that we cant talk to guys tonight”/
What you would do in these situations is smile and in a casual, “no big deal” way, introduce yourself to the friend and tell her that you want to talk to her friend (the target). If the friend still gives you crap, you can make the “non-compliance” face. I talk about this more in my training module on Vibing.
Imagine what its like for attractive women. From the age of 16 or 17, theyve been stared at, had sexual stuff yelled out about them while walking around, and they have a steady stream of “nice guy” approaches by beta guys who dont know anything about seduction or “game.” Fortunately for you, you purchased this program and you now have a giant advantage over the rest of guys out there. However, the other guys with no skills are the ones that are largely to blame for the friends coming in to block you when you try to talk to their friend. The reason for this is a girl cannot simply entertain this relentless stream of “nice guy” approaches. After all, she has to live her life and enjoy time with her friends. The above discussion also applies to the target (the girl you want to talk to) giving you some “token negative reactions” up front sometimes. If this happens, deal with it how you would deal with the friends trying to friendblock. Just take a step back, smile, and say that you just wanted to meet her.

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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
When you open someone you are basically intruding on someones personal bubble so they will usually put up some resistance to admitting you because people, by nature, are busy. So you can add “Time Constraints” to your opener if you want to. A Time Constraint is a way of telling your target that you are only going to interact with them for a short period of time. This bypasses the resistance they would put up because you are presenting yourself as just a momentary distraction to their daily lives.
** Some examples of Time Constraints are:
1. Real quick...
2. I know youre busy, but...
3. Ive only got a few seconds...
4. I gotta get going in a minute...
5. This will only take a second...
6. I can only stay a minute...
All of these time constraints set the frame that the interaction will be quick, which youll find most people are open to. This is an example of lowering compliance thresholds. For instance, if a girl happened to be moving, and you just did a standard opener, that would have less success than prefacing it first with “two seconds, two seconds.” Because it lowers the compliance threshold and it is easier for the girl to want to stop for “2 seconds.”
However, once youre in your targets personal bubble, youll find that you can take up as much time as is necessary to get them interested in you. This is why my favorite opener is “Hi, can I meet you real quick?” I am
telling the girl that I want to meet her (which is direct) and putting in a time constraint.

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- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUInX90G9vE][YouTube - Permanently Fix Your Approach Anxiety]]
* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
We discussed earlier in this guide the notion of approach anxiety and why we feel that fear when we want to approach. I explained how it is an irrational fear based on outdated genetic programming. Many men who are unaware of approach anxiety have come to the conclusion that approaching women is hard, stressful, and even downright scary.
Most people fear public speaking more than death and when asked why, they will almost always respond with “Im afraid of failure,” or “Im afraid of rejection.” But no matter how they respond, they will always blame it on one thing: being afraid.
Other than fear, another big factor is that lots of guys are lazy. Some guys feel safe by not approaching because they dont have to venture outside of their comfort zone. In this zone you know what to expect, and therefore dont have to worry about feeling afraid. And more often than not, you wont want to leave your comfort zone, because approaching someone introduces the prospect of uncertainty into your life. It takes effort to get out of your comfort zone, and most of the time, people prefer to be lazy and stay comfortable, rather than do the work it takes to meet their goals. This is the first barrier you have to approaching a woman you desire.
The second barrier can be an even harder one to overcome. Even those who do the work to leave their comfort zone must face this barrier before they can proceed.
This barrier is what causes your stomach to tighten and contract. Its what causes your heart to beat faster. Its what causes you to break into a cold sweat and your palms to go clammy. Its fear. But its not the type of fear you might think.
Your desire creates an intense want of that woman. And where theres an intense want, theres also an intense desire not to lose what you want. That is why lots of guys censor themselves around attractive women. They keep quiet because they dont want to mess up their “chances.” They dont want to do anything that may screw up the possibility that you can get what you want.
This is basically a fear of loss. Because when we lose something, something is taken away from us, and we experience a type of emptiness that is incredibly hard to cope with. There are a few things one must do to overcome these barriers. First of all, you need to keep in mind that a large cause of that fear of approach is due to outdated genetic programming from tribal times. I taught you before how to treat this like a pebble in your shoe and completely ignore it rather than allow it to paralyze you.
Second, you need to build competence. Competence is merely a form of secure knowledge. When you have secure knowledge in something, you are comfortable doing it. In order to achieve the competence necessary to overcome the barriers to approaching, you have to know what youre going to say before you approach. This is done by memorizing certain openers of your choosing, and being able to recall them at will. Having a number of openers memorized gives you a “toolbox” with which to work with. One that will insure youre never at a loss of words. Having memorized openers gives you a way to break out of your comfort zone. Additionally, I gave you a bunch of pillars and guidelines for opening. So you should have competence with opening now that you have access to my training program.
Lastly, to overcome these barriers, you need Detachment from Outcome. You need to be able to disassociate yourself from the possibility of success, to the point where you do not care about the outcome of the interaction.
This is an important part of overcoming your fear of loss. Its a little bit of zen-like philosophy where you must free yourself from all attachment you naturally associate to a woman. When you detach yourself from the possibility that you may be able to sleep with a girl, you free yourself from your fear of loss because you are no longer concerned about losing it.

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- [[./_subsections/ch02-approach anxiety.org][approach anxiety]]
- [[./_subsections/ch03-3 second rule.org][3 second rule]]
- [[./_subsections/ch04-which girls to approach.org][knowing which girls to approach]]
- [[./_subsections/ch05-pillars of opening.org][pillars of opening]]
- [[./_subsections/ch06-time constraints.org][time constraints]]
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** intro
*** ABOUT THIS LESSON
Most openers suck. They're boring, cheesy, or outright lame. Girls see right through them and ignore them instantly. Girls dont want to hear these kinds of messages.
I knew there had to be something better out there. That's when I became obsessed with figuring out what makes an opener truly irresistible.
I tested countless techniques - some worked and others failed miserably. But eventually, I uncovered the secrets to openers that spark curiosity, provide intrigue, and get women addicted to replying.
In this mini course I will walk you through what I have learned and explain each aspect with examples. We will start with Online Openers for platforms like Tinder and we will then get into openers to use on female strangers in real life as well.
By the end of this guide, you will have a solid foundation to build on to open conversations with women online and in person!

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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
Lets start with what not to do…
Most people struggle with Tinder openers because they often lack personalization and creativity. Many guys send generic messages like "Hey" or "What's up?" which show no effort or genuine interest in the person they're messaging. This makes them blend in with the countless other messages women receive daily. Additionally, some men use overly sexual or forward messages right off the bat, which can be off-putting and make them seem insincere or just looking for a hookup.
Another common mistake is trying too hard to be cool by delaying responses or crafting overly complex messages. Women can sense when someone is trying too hard, and it often comes off as inauthentic. Using cliché or gimmicky lines like "Do you come here often?" or "Are you a model?" also fails to make a memorable impression and can make you seem unoriginal.
Moreover, many guys fail to ask engaging, open-ended questions that keep the conversation flowing. Instead, they ask yes/no questions or make statements that don't invite further discussion.
A poorly set-up dating profile can also undermine even the best openers. If your photos and bio don't present you well, women are less likely to respond positively to your messages.
Lastly, a lack of confidence and authenticity can be a major turnoff. Women can easily detect when someone is not being genuine. Confidence and authenticity are crucial, and failing to convey these can result in poor responses.
By avoiding these common pitfalls and focusing on personalized, engaging, and authentic messages, you can significantly improve your success rate with Tinder openers.
** Examples of Bad Tinder Openers and Why They Are Ineffective
*** "Hey" or "Hi"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ This is the most generic and uninspired opener you can use. It shows no effort or interest in the person you're messaging. Women receive countless messages like this, and it does nothing to make you stand out.
*** "You're hot"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ While it might seem like a compliment, it comes off as shallow and unoriginal. It suggests that you're only interested in her looks and haven't taken the time to read her profile or learn anything about her.
*** "Do you come here often?"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ This line is a cliché and often used in a joking manner. It doesn't translate well to online dating and can make you seem unoriginal and uncreative.
*** "What's up?"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ Similar to "Hey" or "Hi," this opener is too vague and doesn't give her much to work with. It puts the burden on her to come up with something interesting to say, which can be off-putting.
*** "Are you a model?"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ This can come off as disingenuous and a bit of a backhanded compliment. It might make her feel like you're using a line rather than genuinely interested in her.
*** "I lost my number, can I have yours?"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ This is a cheesy pickup line that rarely works. Its seen as a gimmick and can make you seem unserious or immature.
*** "Netflix and chill?"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ This opener is overly forward and implies that you're only interested in a casual hookup. It can be off-putting to women who are looking for something more meaningful.
*** "Do you believe in love at first sight?"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ This is another cliché line that can come off as insincere. Its been overused and doesnt show any real effort to engage with her on a personal level.
*** "I bet I can make you laugh"
/*Why It's Bad:*/ While humor is important, this line can come off as arrogant. It sets up an expectation that you might not be able to meet and can backfire if your follow-up messages arent actually funny.
*** "Are you from Tennessee? Because you're the only ten I see."
/*Why It's Bad:*/ This is a classic example of a cheesy pickup line. Its overused and can make you seem unoriginal and uncreative.

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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
Im going to give you three examples of tinder openers you can use immediately that have worked especially well for me and explain also how and why they work so you can see how the principles are applied in these messages.
** Opener 1: "I think I saw you yesterday..haha"
It's simple but dynamite. When I tried it on a hot girl who ignored me, she instantly asked where I had seen her. She was desperate to figure out our supposed encounter. She probably thought, “how did he recognize me?”, “was I wearing makeup?”, “why didnt he talk to me?”, “where did he see me?”, etc.
This opener perfectly incorporates the elements of an irresistible opener:
*** Invokes her curiosity
It says something that leaves her wanting to know more. It sparks that innate desire she has to fill in the blanks.
*** Provides intrigue
She'll wrack her brain trying to figure out where and when.
*** Gives plausible deniability
By making your pretended sighting of her somewhere common you could have crossed paths. This makes it believable.
*** Provides an easy transition
After sparking her interest, you can transition smoothly into getting her number. I've used this opener successfully countless times now.
My coaching clients have insane results with it - one student went 12 for 12 in getting numbers from his matches!
It also works really well to reinitiate a conversation where she stopped replying.
So if you take only one thing from this guide, use the "I think I saw you yesterday..haha" line. See for yourself the power it has to spike curiosity and intrigue.
The rest of the conversation goes like this:
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- YOU
- I think I saw you yesterday
- GIRL
- Where?
- YOU
- [some common location or street] at the mall…
- GIRL
- Hmm, it wasnt me
- YOU
- You totally have a twin then! Hahaha. Lets talk more over text its easier :) Whats your number?
- GIRL
- ok! xxx-xxxx
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** Opener 2: "Wow! you are absolutely adorable”
This is another solid opener Ive used with great results. At first glance it can appear similar to some of the bad openers I mentioned not to use, like “Wow youre hot”. But its different enough that it avoids the negative connotations of those kinds of messages. It also aligns well with several of the best practices I outlined above.
*** Personalization:
While this opener may not directly reference something unique from her profile, it still feels personal because its a direct compliment on her appearance and what she is doing in her photos. It shows that youve taken the time to look at her photos and appreciate her looks.
*** Simplicity and Directness:
This opener is straightforward and easy to understand. It avoids any fancy or gimmicky lines, making it come off as sincere and genuine. John Anthony advocates for direct openers because they clearly communicate your interest without beating around the bush.
*** Confidence and Authenticity:
Complimenting someone right off the bat requires a level of confidence. This opener shows that youre not afraid to express your admiration, which can be very appealing. Authenticity is key in online dating, and this message feels genuine rather than rehearsed.
*** Engaging Questions:
While the opener itself is not a question, it sets a positive tone for the conversation. After she responds, you can follow up with engaging, open-ended questions to keep the dialogue flowing. John Anthony suggests using such openers to create a positive initial interaction, which can then be built upon with more engaging questions
*** Avoiding Negativity:
This opener is entirely positive and flattering. It avoids any negative or controversial topics, making it a safe and pleasant way to start a conversation. Keeping the initial interaction positive is crucial for making a good first impression.
** Opener 3: “Wow! Im Impressed”
You probably heard me talking about this one in my video talking about the Ultimate Tinder Opener. This is actually my best performing line of all time. Ill share a little more about it here that covers what I discussed in the video and beyond.
The opener "Wow! I'm impressed" works well for several reasons
*** Invokes her curiosity
She will be wondering what it is about her profile that impressed you and want to find out. This leaves her with a self interest in wanting to reply to you. Girls love when a guy appreciates them so she will be dying to know what caught your interest.
*** Personalization:
This opener can be easily personalized. After the initial "Wow! I'm impressed," you can follow up with something specific from her profile, such as "I'm impressed by your travel experiences" or "I'm impressed by your cooking skills." This shows that you've taken the time to read her profile and are genuinely interested in her.
*** Simplicity and Directness:
The message is straightforward and easy to understand. It avoids any fancy or gimmicky lines, making it come off as sincere and genuine. John Anthony emphasizes the importance of direct openers because they clearly communicate your interest without any ambiguity.
*** Confidence and Authenticity:
Complimenting someone right off the bat requires a level of confidence. This opener shows that youre not afraid to express your admiration, which can be very appealing. Authenticity is key in online dating, and this message feels genuine rather than rehearsed.
*** Engaging Follow-Up:
This opener often prompts a response like "Impressed with what?" which gives you an easy segue into a more personalized compliment. This can lead to a more engaging and meaningful conversation, as you can then discuss something specific about her.

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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
So if those are examples of what not to do, what should you be doing instead with your online openers?
Below are the key principles that make up good openers.
** Personalization
Personalization is key when it comes to online openers. Instead of sending generic messages, take the time to read her profile and find something unique to comment on. This could be a hobby, a travel destination, or even a quirky fact she mentioned. By doing this, you show that youre genuinely interested and not just sending the same message to every girl. It makes your opener stand out and increases the likelihood of getting a response.
** Simplicity and Directness
Keep your openers simple and direct. Avoid using fancy or gimmicky lines that can come off as insincere or try-hard. A straightforward "Hi, I'm [Your Name]" or a simple comment on something specific in her profile works best. This approach is not only easy to execute but also sets a clear and honest tone for the conversation.
** Confidence and Authenticity
Confidence and authenticity are crucial in online dating. Women can easily detect when someone is being fake or overly rehearsed. Be yourself and approach the conversation with genuine interest and confidence. This means avoiding canned lines and instead, speaking naturally and honestly. Authenticity builds trust and makes you more relatable.
** Engaging Questions
Engaging questions are a great way to keep the conversation flowing. Instead of asking yes or no questions, opt for open-ended ones that require more thought and provide more insight into her personality. Questions like "Whats the most interesting place youve traveled to?" or "What do you enjoy doing in your free time?" can lead to more meaningful conversations.
** Avoiding Negativity
Negativity is a major turn-off in any conversation, especially in the initial stages. Keep your opener positive and avoid any negative or controversial topics. Highlighting positive aspects of your life or interests can create a more inviting and pleasant interaction. Remember, the goal is to make her feel good about talking to you.
** Patience and Persistence
Patience and persistence are important in online dating. If she doesnt respond immediately, dont get discouraged. Give it some time and try reinitiating the conversation later. However, avoid being too persistent or coming off as desperate. A balanced approach shows that youre interested but not needy
** Curiosity
Curiosity is very important as it will compel her to respond. Your main goal with the opener is to get a response so that you can continue the conversation. Curiosity greatly increases the chances that she will respond.

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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
Having a good opener is important, but you also need to know what to do once she responds and have a game plan for that. Once you get her attention with a great opener, you need to strike while the iron is hot.
Youll need to capitalize on her increased curiosity to quickly get her number.
For example, with my /"I think I saw you"/ opener, say something like:
/"you have a twin then hahaha! let's talk move over text, it's easier, what's your number?"/
Youll want to have a date idea ready to suggest once you start texting and ask her out once the conversation is flowing - don't text for days and have conversations leading to nowhere
I cant get into all the dynamics and scenarios with the follow-ups to openers in this course, but I do go into all of that in-depth in my Leads Machine program (more below).
** The Big Problem With Online Dating & Texting
From working with thousands of coaching clients for more than a decade, and sleeping with over 1,850+ women myself all around the world, I've seen firsthand where guys tend to go wrong:
- They don't know how to turn chats on dating apps into getting her phone number.
- They text girls aimlessly without any strategy, having conversations leading to nowhere.
- When she stops responding or flakes, they get thrown off and give up.
- They are afraid to follow up out of fear of double texting.
- They can't consistently move things from chatting to setting up the actual date.
- They dont know how to deal with objections the woman gives to giving her phone number or meeting up
I remember when I first started out, I would match with gorgeous women on Tinder and Bumble, but I just didn't know how to advance the interaction forward towards meeting up.
Or I'd meet a girl at a bar and get her number, but then have no idea what to text her after.
I'd just text boring stuff like "hey what's up" and never hear back from her again. I wasted tons of opportunities!
Over the years, I discovered that there was a HUGE gap between matching, getting phone numbers, getting dates set up, and actually hooking up.
Most guys have NO PLAN (or a very bad one) for converting matches or phone numbers into dates.
** Leads Machine Uses ControlPath© Texting Scripts
To solve this problem, I developed the exclusive ControlPath© texting scripts that show guys step-by-step exactly what to say to women on dating apps and over text messages in every type of situation. A “Control Path” refers to a specific branch in a flowchart that a conversation might take.
This revolutionary system is based on meticulous testing and refinement from tens of thousands of phone numbers (literally!).
I experimented with all different types of messaging to see what worked consistently and I extracted the patterns of the best text pathways that consistently led to phone numbers and dates.
The ControlPath scripts handle all areas of text game:
- Turning matches from dating apps into phone numbers
- Turning phone numbers into dates
- Setting up public dates for drinks or coffee or straight to your place
- Dealing with flakes, cancels, and reschedules
- Overcoming objections like logistical issues or safety concerns
- How to make sure the conversation never gets boring
- How to make sure you dont run out of things to say
- What to do if she ignores you once, twice, or three times in a row
It's an A-Z blueprint, with the exact scripts I used to sleep with over 1,850 gorgeous women.
** How To Maximize Your Results Using ControlPath Texting Scripts
With the ControlPath scripts in your arsenal, you'll have access to the same elite level texting skills that I do.
It's like having me right there telling you exactly what to say and when. All the guesswork of what to message on Tinder or what to text your phone numbers is gone.
Just follow the scripts, and watch your results skyrocket 10x:
- Your match-to-phone number conversion rates will rapidly improve
- You'll set up dates with hot girls smoothly and effortlessly
- Flakes and ghosting will become a thing of the past
- You'll get more girls straight to your place eager to hook up
- Your texting confidence and effectiveness will be on a whole new level
Plus, you can use the scripts with phone numbers that you get from meeting women in public as well - bars, clubs, cafes, etc. Anywhere you get a girl's number, these scripts optimize your chances of getting her out on a date.
So if you're struggling to reliably move things forward over text, the ControlPath system is a total game changer.
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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
This type of opener allows you to present yourself as some type of authority figure. This type of opener can come off as annoying since people neither asked nor wanted advice from you in the first place. So to counteract this you would have to give valuable advice to someone in order to get them engaged. In order to make advice valuable, you must make it practical.
When you make the advice positive, you are presenting an attractive option that your target may follow. And if they accept your advice, you have established yourself as an authority. After spotting your target, you would observe her situation and find something to comment on. Then you would approach your target by offering your advice, and end by engaging them in some kind of fashion. This type of opener is usually going to be context dependent.
** Example Advice Opener
If you see a girl whos by herself either waiting, looking bored, or with a frown on her face. You could walk up to her and say, “Hey cheer up! Things cant get much worse” She will usually reply with a laugh or a smile. To which you would add in, “You know it takes fewer muscles to smile that it does to frown? Why do you think that is?” When in doubt, you can never go wrong by advising someone to smile!

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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
This type of opener involves commenting on a specific aspect of the girls appearance. You can make a comment about how short or tall she is, how young or old she looks (be careful not to offend), something about her outfit, piercings, tattoos, or even some funny expression shes making. This type of opener can even extend to non-tangible things like the sound of her voice or the way she laughs. This gives you a quick “go-to” thing to say based on something you observe.
** Example Appearance Opener (works well if youre tall)
#+begin_conversation
- You
- “wow how tall are you”
- Her
- blah blah
- You
- “well Im [your height] and you look almost as tall as me!”
- Her
- “well Im wearing heels haha” (sometimes shell take them off to show you her real height)
- You
- “so you must not have a lot of options in the club since most of the guys are shorter than you” (you can smirk)
- You
- “good thing you met me ;)”
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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
One problem with a compliment opener is that your compliment might be something that the target hears all the time and this will fail to differentiate you from the other guys. So the way to stand out is to compliment the girl on something that is unique that not every guy will notice. This usually means complimenting her on something not related to her physical beauty. First off, you must notice something about the girl that you can compliment. Then you approach her and make it relevant to the situation.
** Example Compliment Opener:
#+begin_conversation
- You
- “How high are those heels?”
- Her
- blah blah
- You
- “Wow, you really know how to walk in them. Most women are so clumsy and uncoordinated. Its such a lost art. Good to know there are still some women around who know how to do it right. Howd you learn?”
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** ABOUT THIS LESSON
The power of a direct opener is that it unapologetically shows your intentions. Rather than “beating around the bush,” a direct opener shows the girl that you are interested in her (which she already knew anyways since you approached her). Direct openers are the openers that I encourage you to use the most. These are my personal favorite. Other types of openers can sound cheesy or gimmicky or like you are saying pickup lines. Direct openers, on the other hand, are authentic and showcase your intent. It is a very blunt way of taking over your targets reality and imposing your own on them. But its this imposition that can create potential resistance from your target. However, by calibrating after the fact, as I talked about earlier in this guide, you can bypass this resistance and adjust to any potential negative reactions, allowing this type of opener to get you in with your target very fast and effectively. The purpose of a direct opener is to communicate that you are not intimidated by your target and you make no excuses for your desires. This type of opener is one of the easier ones for girls to reject but it is also the most powerful, so I recommend using this type most of the time and then calibrating to how she reacts. This type of opener is great because it sets the frame for your intentions right off the bat and is congruent with your other high value, dominant behaviors such as physicality, speaking loud enough, having laser eye contact, etc.
** Example Direct Openers
1. “Hi, can I meet you real quick?”
2. “Hi, whats your name?”
3. “Hey, I cant talk long, but you seem really cool and I wanted to meet you. My name is...”
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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
Drama gets the emotions stirred up and has the ability to enrapture people and engage them in powerful ways. The drama opener is more of a story of a dramatic event that usually involves some type of conflict. The structure for a drama opener is to use a hook statement to engage your targets curiosity, while at the same time linking that curiosity to you. And then you want to launch into the story that is the source of the drama. Example Drama Opener “Hey guys, you wont believe what I just saw. I was outside this bar, and there were these two girls arguing with each other. I guess they used to be best friends or something, and one of them stole the other girls boyfriend. All of a sudden, one of them grabs the other by the hair and drags her down to the ground! And theyre on the ground clawing at each other and slamming their heads into the concrete, and the guy theyre fighting over is standing there with his friends laughing at them, like its sooooo cool that he has two girls fighting over him.
** Example Drama Openers
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- You
- "Can you believe that?”
- Girl
- blah blah
- You
- “Actually, Im curious, would you ever fight over a guy like that?”
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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
The purpose of this opener is to say something nice to someone to open them up, but then undermine it right away to make the person youre opening insecure to the point where they feel the need to either correct you or prove themselves to you. The best situation to use this type of opener is if your target has too high a perceived social value or is being obnoxious or bitchy. This can be a tricky type of opener to pull off because you run the risk of offending your target. However, this type of owner will knock your targets value down a few pegs relative to your own if done correctly. It is very important that the compliment is made first, before the undermining statement. Otherwise you run the risk of offending your target and ruining the interaction before you have a chance to turn it around and engage them. Also, insult openers work better on individuals rather than groups because the whole group may turn against you. This is one of the most engaging openers there is so you must launch into another opener or story right after.
** Example Insult Opener
If the woman has something about her which is obviously fake like her nails or her hair or eyelashes, you can say something like:
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- You
- “Wow, your hair is gorgeous! Is it naturally (whatever color her hair may be)?”
- Her
- No
- You
- (looking disappointed) “Oh... Well, I suppose its still nice”
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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
This opener can be used if you happen to be a pretty funny guy. This opener can be powerful but it is also one of the most difficult to pull off. Any joke that is quick and relatively simple is great to use as an opener. The reason its powerful is because it gets your target laughing, and laughter is instantly disarming, and raises your perceived social value to the target.
** Example Joke Opener
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- You
- “Hey guys, what do gay cows eat?”
- Girls
- blah blah
- You
- (twirl your finger in the air, and in your best gay voice, say) “Haaaaayyyyy!”
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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
Opinion openers allow you to get a girl to invest her own personal thoughts and feelings. Once they have invested they are more likely to commit themselves to the interaction.
Opinion openers are indirect openers because they do not show interest. You will typically start off with “Hey guys, I need an opinion on something...” This beginning part engages your target and lets them know right up front what you want from them. However, it disguises your intentions (opposite of a direct opener) which is why I prefer to use direct openers. The structure of this opener is to give your target two or three options to choose from.
** Example Opinion Opener
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- You
- “Hey guys, I need a female perspective on something. This will only take a minute.
- Is it normal for girls to snoop?
- Because my buddys girlfriend just found a shoebox he keeps hidden in a dresser drawer, and shes really upset about it. Its nothing bad, just pictures of him and ex-girlfriends on vacation and old love letters he got in high school and stuff. But for some reason his girlfriend is freaking out about this and wants him to get rid of it or shes threatening to break up with him. Is this normal female behavior?”
- Girl
- Gives opinion
- You
- “Okay, theres a second part to this story...
- The reason his girlfriend started snooping around was because she was using his computer one day, and in the computer she found a CD that had all these homemade pictures of my buddy and his ex-girlfriends having sex. I guess he was looking at them and forgot he left the CD in the computer. But for some reason, his girlfriend isnt upset about that What upset her more was the box of love letters. Why do you think that is?”
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** Example Opinion Opener 2
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- You
- “Who lies more, guys or girls?”
- Girl
- blah blah
- You
- “Oh ya? Why do you think that?”
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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
The point of roleplay openers is to cast the people youre opening in a certain role, a role which has the characteristics you want them to have. The theory behind this is the person who you cast in a role will eventually start displaying characteristics of that role you gave them. Also, these openers can be fun and interactive.
** Example Roleplay Opener
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- You
- “Hey, you like music?”
- Her
- “Yeah”
- You
- “Ive always wanted to be a musician. What kind of music do you like?”
- Her
- blah blah
- You
- “Yeah, me too! Id be the most famous [her favorite type of music] musician ever! And you, you can be the president of my fan club. Itd be great. You could follow me around asking for my autograph, tell everyone how sexy I am, and no matter what I do, you can act like its the greatest thing youve ever seen! But the minute you start following me to my home and asking to have my baby is the minute I have to fire you, so you better be good and just admire me from afar.”
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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
This type of opener requires you to be observant and quick witted. Also, timing is everything. This opener basically entails noticing something in your environment and commenting on it. You can comment to a girl about any particular interesting thing you see in the environment that you both are in.
** Example Situational Opener
If you see a girl (not in your targets group) acting outrageously to get attention from other men, such as being overtly sexual or flashing her breasts, turn to other women who notice the same thing and say: “Ugh! What an attention whore!”
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* Notes
** ABOUT THIS LESSON
You've now learned the principles of good in-person openers as well as many effective examples. The next step is running a date and making sure it goes well.
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- [[./_subsections/ch01-advice.org][advice openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch02-appearance.org][appearance openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch03-compliment.org][compliment openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch04-direct.org][direct openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch05-drama.org][drama openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch06-insult.org][insult openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch07-joke.org][joke openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch08-opinion.org][opinion openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch09-roleplay.org][roleplay openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch10-situational.org][situational openers]]
- [[./_subsections/ch11-after.org][after the opener]]

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- [[./_categories/online/toc.org][online openers]]
- [[./_categories/in_person/toc.org][in-person openers]]
- [[./_categories/types/toc.org][different types of openers]]