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* Notes
** finding good prompts
- one option is to look at the community feed
  - the images have the prompts used to make them
- use search feature in discover

** character by -
- https://midlibrary.io
- using an artist in the public domain and 'character by [artist]'

** prompthero
https://prompthero.com/midjourney-prompts

- use to find gooed keywords


* Review - Prompt Research & Generation

** Summary
This lesson explains how to create better Midjourney prompts by using external resources and studying how others write prompts.

The key idea:
You do not need to invent prompts from scratch.

Instead:
- research
- borrow structure
- adapt
- combine ideas

** Core Principle
Great prompts come from:
- exposure to many examples
- understanding keywords
- remixing what already works

Not from guessing blindly.

** Method 1: Midjourney Community Feed

The Midjourney public feed is one of the best prompt-learning tools.

Why:
- shows real outputs
- shows full prompts
- reveals hidden keywords
- demonstrates structure

** How to Use the Feed
1. search for a concept
   - “Japanese art”
   - “corgi”
   - “pattern”
2. open an image you like
3. study the full prompt
4. extract useful parts
5. reuse / modify

** Example Workflow [0/5]
- [ ] find image you like
- [ ] read full prompt
- [ ] identify style keywords
- [ ] copy relevant phrases
- [ ] adapt to your subject

** Insight
Short prompt:
#+begin_example
corgi
#+end_example

Rich prompt:
#+begin_example
corgi, sticker, flat vector art style, clean lines
#+end_example

Result difference:
- basic prompt → generic output
- rich prompt → targeted style

** Method 2: Prompt Borrowing

You can combine prompts from different sources.

Example:
- take “Japanese art style” prompt
- apply it to “corgi”

Result:
- hybrid concept
- new design direction

** Prompt Composition Pattern
#+begin_example
[subject] + [style] + [medium] + [details]
#+end_example

Example:
#+begin_example
corgi, Japanese ink painting style, soft brush strokes, minimal background
#+end_example

** Method 3: Artist Style Reference

Using artist names can produce very specific styles.

Example:
#+begin_example
corgi in the style of [artist]
#+end_example

** Important Considerations
- controversial topic
- based on training from artists’ work
- legal status varies by jurisdiction
- ethical considerations differ

** Safer Approach
Use:
- public domain artists
- historical styles
- general style descriptions

Instead of:
- living artists (if you want to avoid issues)

** Example
#+begin_example
sunflower illustration in the style of a classical botanical artist
#+end_example

** Effect
- faster style targeting
- less trial-and-error
- more consistent outputs

** Method 4: PromptHero

PromptHero is a database of real prompts.

Use it to:
- search by topic
- discover advanced keywords
- copy structured prompts
- refine your own

** Example Use Case
Search:
#+begin_example
Japanese pattern
#+end_example

Extract:
- “intricate”
- “ornate”
- “textile”
- “organic texture”
- “color palette”

Then apply:
#+begin_example
Japanese sea waves, intricate ornate textile pattern, organic texture, --tile
#+end_example

** Before vs After

Basic:
#+begin_example
sea waves pattern
#+end_example

Advanced:
#+begin_example
intricate Japanese sea waves, ornate textile pattern, organic texture, detailed color palette --tile
#+end_example

Result:
- far more detailed
- closer to target aesthetic
- more usable for products

** Prompt Expansion Technique

Take a simple idea:
#+begin_example
sunflower
#+end_example

Expand it:
#+begin_example
minimalist black line art sunflower, botanical illustration, clean lines, white background
#+end_example

Then refine:
#+begin_example
minimalist botanical sunflower illustration, fine line art, vintage engraving style, white background
#+end_example

** Prompt Building Checklist [0/6]
- [ ] subject defined clearly
- [ ] style added
- [ ] medium specified (art, vector, painting, etc.)
- [ ] detail level controlled (minimal / intricate)
- [ ] background defined
- [ ] optional modifiers added (lighting, texture, etc.)

** Strategy: Learn → Combine → Adapt

Do NOT:
- rely on one prompt
- expect perfect output immediately

DO:
- study many prompts
- mix components
- iterate repeatedly

** Key Insight
The fastest way to improve prompting is not creativity.

It is pattern recognition.

You learn:
- which words produce which results
- which structures work
- how to combine them

** Bottom Line
Use:
- Midjourney feed → inspiration
- PromptHero → structured prompts
- artist references → style shortcuts

Then:
- combine ideas
- refine prompts
- iterate until the image matches your intent


* Transcript
#+begin_example
00:00
Hey, everyone. In this video,

00:02
we're gonna use websites to help us create

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amazing prompts so that we can create

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the perfect picture that we want to print.

00:11
And the way that you create amazing prompts is that

00:14
you learn a lot about the different

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things that you can ask,

00:18
MidGenie to,

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add into it. Now, I wish I could create a

00:22
huge list view, but I can't because it really depends

00:24
upon what image you want to create.

00:26
What I can do, however,

00:28
is help

00:30
you put your idea into life

00:32
by showing you different websites that you can use to

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research different images

00:36
that might help inspire you with different prompts to get

00:39
you where you wanna be. So

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the first website

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is Midjourney itself.

00:45
Now remember how with Midjourney, you can select to have

00:47
images be public or stealth. If you have the pro

00:51
account, you can choose stealth. If you don't choose stealth,

00:54
if you've got a different account, for example, and you

00:55
choose for it to be public because maybe it has

00:57
to be because you don't have the stealth option,

01:00
the image can be in the community feed. And so

01:02
people can search for it and can find it.

01:05
And this is a wonderful resource for people to learn

01:08
how to prompt. So

01:10
we come here, for example, and we take a look

01:12
at this image.

01:13
It's, you know, really beautifully detailed.

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And

01:17
a big part of why is because it's got all

01:18
of these different

01:20
prompts in it.

01:22
And so these are things that

01:23
you may have not actually considered to add into it.

01:26
If we just came and put in Amazing Ancient If

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we just came in and did, you know, a prompt

01:30
for this

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let's

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complete this prompt.

01:39
And we come

01:42
up here. Also, I apologize if you were if you've

01:46
seen my first video on this, you'll know that my

01:49
dog, Starbuck,

01:50
is currently with me in the house.

01:52
He's being a little barky.

01:54
If I have to pause this video,

01:56
it's probably because

01:57
of him.

02:00
But if we come and we do a if we

02:01
come and, do this, we'll probably get a very, very

02:04
different result

02:05
to

02:06
what they got. And partially, that's because they've already done

02:09
a lot of rerolls

02:11
to get what they want.

02:13
But a big part of it is because of the

02:15
fact not a big part, you know, the biggest part

02:18
of it of all is because they've done so many

02:21
they've added so many extra

02:23
details

02:25
to the prompt.

02:27
And so we're gonna have a very, very different result

02:30
to what they have.

02:36
We're almost there.

02:38
This here,

02:39
very,

02:40
very different

02:43
to what

02:44
they got

02:45
because of all these other additional things that they added

02:47
in.

02:48
And so

02:50
this is how you can discover

02:52
fantastic prompts. You can either use those same prompts or

02:56
what you would probably want to do is go in

02:58
and modify them.

03:00
So let's come

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and

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let's look for art because perhaps you wanted to create

03:06
Japanese art.

03:08
Well, now

03:09
we have a huge range of different, prompts

03:12
that we can apply.

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So

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here, let's come say for example.

03:19
So many to pick from here.

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This 1 here, for example.

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You might, for example,

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portrait.

03:38
Let's come and let's take this.

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And

03:48
then

03:49
let's come and take

03:52
our

03:56
Colby

03:58
prompts.

04:06
Where is that, though?

04:12
We'll see what it creates.

04:14
And so if we had been in our brain wanting

04:17
to create

04:18
a Japanese style,

04:20
art of a Korgi,

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Well,

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by coming

04:25
into the Midjourney feed and seeing this, we've been able

04:28
to come in here and get some inspiration

04:30
for different things that we can add in to it.

04:33
And you'll see that we're already gonna have a very,

04:35
very different style

04:38
of Corgi

04:40
because of, the prompt that we used,

04:43
that we gained inspiration from all this.

04:57
Almost there.

04:59
Wow. Isn't that beautiful?

05:02
Isn't that incredible?

05:04
So come back here. Let's say that we,

05:09
rather than Japanese artists, come, like, search for corgi

05:13
to cartoon.

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Because, you know, we might have in our brain and

05:19
our ideas say, you know, we wanna have a Corgi.

05:21
We want we wanna have an animated Corgi,

05:24
but we just can't think about, you know, the different

05:26
styles that we want it to be in.

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So,

05:29
because, you know, we put in Corgi into it, and

05:31
it just didn't create the style of Corgi that we

05:33
wanted. So let's say that this here,

05:36
well,

05:37
this 1 here

05:38
is using,

05:40
trademarked,

05:41
phrases. And we'll get to we'll get to that in

05:44
a in a minute,

05:48
about

05:50
about about that.

05:53
Wow. Look at that. Corgi blueprint.

05:55
See, look at all the amazing things that you can

05:57
get here.

06:04
S.

06:10
Let's come

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and say

06:12
that we

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I won't use the 1 with the trade. I cannot

06:21
oh, sorry. Let's come get those up again.

06:27
This 1 here. So let's see. You might come here

06:30
and you'll see that,

06:31
you could come and get inspiration from this here.

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So,

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sticker, flat, vector, art style.

06:39
You might think, well, what if we were to apply

06:41
that to ours?

06:46
Corgi.

06:50
Oh, whoops. Sorry.

06:51
I accidentally deleted that.

06:54
Corgi.

06:56
What was our prompt here? Sticker.

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And then we'll see what it creates for us.

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And by,

07:20
using these prompts that we're finding through the MidJourney feed,

07:23
we're learning of different ways

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that we can,

07:29
ask Midjourney to create different styles for us so that

07:33
when we want to replicate

07:36
in our head what we if we wanna take the

07:39
idea that we have in our head and put it

07:40
into reality,

07:41
we can get more prompts on things that we can

07:44
tell in the journey,

07:46
to use

07:47
to create the image that we want.

08:00
Very, very cute.

08:02
So you can see here that it's literally created,

08:04
a sticker,

08:06
which is not necessarily what you'd want because,

08:09
you probably don't want it to be like this. But

08:11
that's a good that's a good lesson.

08:15
So, yes. So that's how you can get different ideas

08:17
for different things. Now,

08:19
something

08:19
else

08:21
we'll come back,

08:23
do a search for

08:25
is

08:27
you're seeing in here that people are achieving particular looks

08:32
because

08:33
they're using character buy.

08:36
So

08:37
let's

08:38
discuss that.

08:40
So this website here

08:43
is 1 of the biggest resources online

08:46
for helping people find artist artistic styles created by specific

08:51
artists.

08:52
And if you prompt

08:54
Midjourney

08:55
using it,

08:56
then it will create art in a similar style.

09:00
Now,

09:01
this

09:02
is controversial.

09:04
If you've seen any of my videos where I've discussed

09:06
AI art before,

09:08
there are definitely a lot of

09:11
very,

09:12
very passionate comments.

09:14
Some of them quite

09:16
personally cruel,

09:18
attacking,

09:20
me

09:20
for discussing AI art because

09:23
this

09:24
is the most controversial aspect of it,

09:27
the fact that AI art has been trained on different

09:30
artists' images. And so the question is

09:34
around whether it's okay or not to use particular artists

09:38
to generate an image.

09:40
Currently,

09:41
there's there's nothing illegal about this.

09:45
So

09:46
that's why you can do it. Now whether you agree

09:48
with it or not,

09:50
I will show you that there are ways to do

09:52
it that you don't have to necessarily

09:55
use current artists. You could use artists who are now

09:58
in the public domain and whose images

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and his and style are now historic.

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But this is your,

10:06
current best website for finding all of these.

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And again, the results you can get can be very

10:11
specific. So by using this this person here was, used

10:15
a particular artist

10:17
to achieve this, style.

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So,

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what you do is you

10:24
come in to say

10:26
this 1 here. You know, you're look you're creating an

10:28
image for your children. You can come in here and

10:30
you can see, the the,

10:33
10 styles for kids

10:34
and your parents. And you can find some very incredible,

10:38
artists in here.

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So this here is,

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a Japanese manga artist,

10:44
who created the Dragon Ball series.

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And, of course,

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if you were to use,

10:51
their name as a prompt, then you would get,

10:53
that particular art style.

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This particular art style, you've probably seen a lot too.

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This artist has created some really stunning artwork. So if

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you were to use them as a prompt,

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you would get some,

11:06
some, images that look quite similar.

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Now if we scroll down,

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keep going.

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Keep going.

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So

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this artist here

11:24
is an example of 1 whose works are in the

11:27
public domain.

11:29
Hold on. Okay. So fingers crossed.

11:32
Starbucks has stopped barking. You can carry on. Okay. So

11:36
we found an artist

11:38
that is in the public domain.

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So

11:42
let's come

11:43
and let's take your name and we'll copy it.

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Come back here.

11:48
I'm gonna go and imagine

11:54
corgi,

11:58
flat,

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character

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by,

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and let's see

12:12
what it creates for us.

12:14
And so

12:16
using this

12:17
method,

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you can

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get some

12:21
very specific

12:22
styles

12:23
of images

12:25
and help you very quickly

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narrow down

12:29
the look

12:31
that you want.

12:33
Now, again,

12:34
not everybody necessarily

12:36
agrees with this method, but,

12:39
I do want to share it

12:42
so that,

12:43
you can make your own choices for it.

12:46
And also,

12:48
of course explain that there are ways to do it

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where

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you can take historical artists

12:55
and then,

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use

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them

13:00
to help you generate

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the art. And you can see that we have

13:05
very different

13:07
images

13:08
as a result of this.

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Some pretty cool ones as well. So if you'd be

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looking for a particular style like this,

13:18
rather than have to narrow it down by saying things

13:21
like, you know, painted and,

13:23
having to go into the different types of there's no

13:26
different, like, particular styles of painting that you want, you

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can quickly

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shortcut a lot of that process

13:33
by utilizing styles which have already been created

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by,

13:41
different artists.

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And,

13:45
again, there's so many different ones on here to choose

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from.

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So,

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if you come to the botanical floral styles, you'll see

13:53
that a lot of these

13:55
come from artists

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who,

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are historical.

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This 1 these ones here, you know, are definitely not.

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These are

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current artists.

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But this 1 yeah.

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Please don't think so. Let me see, these ones here.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yes, no. I was I was like I I recognize,

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Alan Kinney.

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I'm fairly certain that he's not a historical

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artist.

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But no.

14:24
AJ,

14:25
Keeson was so there we go. So,

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believe that AJ

14:30
is a historical artist,

14:31
but fairly certain that, Kenny is still,

14:36
alive.

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But,

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I'm not even gonna attempt,

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to to,

14:46
say this

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artist,

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but

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say the name.

14:53
They'll come and we'll take this 1.

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Sunflower

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drawn by

15:15
and let's see

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what Midjourney creates for us

15:20
doing this.

15:23
And while this is happening,

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we'll come back

15:27
and take a look at more of this website because

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this website

15:30
does have a lot. As you can see, it also

15:32
has,

15:35
different guides in it too. But, yes, it has many

15:37
different styles in it to choose from.

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And something else that you can do,

15:44
is search for styles.

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So come and do search for cartoon. You're gonna be

15:53
able you're gonna get access to,

15:57
a lot of different, styles here that you can come

16:00
and you can get inspiration from

16:03
from different artists and

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also

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techniques.

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So not just not just specific artists,

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but it will,

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there are guides for, different particular,

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techniques. And it also shows you here, for example, actually,

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interestingly enough,

16:21
the different,

16:22
versions, what style of art they can give you,

16:26
for similar prompts. But anyway, let's come back here. See

16:30
here? Very, very different,

16:33
style.

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So that's how you can use,

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different artists.

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There's another website that I think is very helpful, to

16:43
know about.

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And that website is PromptHero.

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So you create a free account and we're gonna come

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I'm gonna search for Mid Journey prompts.

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And what we can do is we can come, we

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can do a search for what we want.

16:57
So

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let's say, for example, that we wanted to create a

17:01
pattern.

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We want it to,

17:05
be in a traditional Japanese style,

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but we just didn't know how to prompt it. So

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we can come here and go,

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Japanese

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pattern

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and search.

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And so the results is gonna give us results which

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have been uploaded by the community.

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So it'll help us very quickly identify prompts which are,

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helpful for us.

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And so,

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looking at this here,

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Come take a look at this here. There's a lot

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of keywords here, isn't there,

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that

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we may have not considered?

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So I'm gonna come and click copy this to create

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this very traditional looking, design.

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Let's come let me click imagine.

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I'm gonna copy this.

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We don't need to put seamless pattern

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because we're gonna put in

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our

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tile prompt.

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So let's go,

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see waves

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and

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use this prompt.

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And then what we'll do

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is we'll compare

18:28
the what we we'll compare what we get here

18:30
with what we created before because remember we created

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a seamless pattern

18:38
of sea waves before,

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and we gave it very

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unspecific

18:44
prompts compared to this. With this 1 here, we've been

18:47
give we've given it so many more different things.

18:50
Intricate,

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ornate,

18:52
you know, beautiful colorful organic texture map,

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flat texture. These are

18:57
even more specific keywords that are gonna get us,

19:01
in Japanese textiles,

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that's going to get us much closer to what we

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want it to be versus

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the very

19:09
broad

19:10
prompt that I gave it.

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So this here is what we achieved through that.

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And if we come back up here, you'll see that

19:21
it is very, very different, isn't it?

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It is extremely

19:25
different.

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This here was just waves,

19:29
and they were sea waves and they were blue because

19:31
we didn't ask it to add in, you know, the

19:33
traditional,

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you know, to make it colorful

19:36
in a particular,

19:38
with the particular color,

19:40
palette that you would expect from, of course, traditional Japanese

19:42
art like this. Whereas these ones here are so much

19:45
more colorful

19:47
and,

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you know, much more intricate, much more ornate.

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And so,

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by using,

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Prompt Hero, we've been able to create very different,

20:02
prompts that can help us get much closer to what

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we want by being inspired

20:06
by the prompts

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that other people have created.

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And that

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is,

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from

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my experience,

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the best way that I have been able to create

20:18
these prompts,

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you know, using my own,

20:22
ingenuity to come up with my own ideas for how

20:24
to prompt it.

20:26
But in particular,

20:27
learning through what others prompt to help me create the

20:31
prompt for what I'm looking to create.
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